The Podcast Episode About Friendship Betrayal That’s Too Wild Not to Hear

You might know Lucie Fink from the early days of Refinery29 (remember trying to live like a French girl for five days?), but these days she’s become the internet’s millennial big sister, giving us the kind of real talk that we actually want. And now? Fink’s bringing her podcast, The Real Stuff, to Dear Media, a move that feels like a perfect match. Today’s episode is with her MIL if that gives you any indication of Lucie’s boldness.

If you haven’t been listening to The Real Stuff yet, allow us to introduce you. Instead of morning routines and productivity hacks (although we love those too), Fink is having the conversations you might be having with your friends over Caesar salad and fries. You know, the ones where you finally admit you’re still not over a friendship breakup from three years ago, or the thought of marriage really does scare the hell out of you.

In one episode, “My ex-BFF published a book about me,” Fink unravels a story from an audience caller whose ex-best friend wrote a whole book about their friendship. It’s like finding out your childhood traumas are now just plot points in a book, blending both real and fictional events. We loved the way Fink let the audience caller tell her side of the story and reclaim the narrative after betrayal. Friendship breakups really suck, but imagine?!

There are other episodes where Fink opens up about her own situation: all the salaries she’s ever made, her wildest fan interaction every, and her journey through pregnancy. She hosts an episode with three different couples who talk about how having kids changed their marriages. It’s a raw conversation about the good, the bad, and the ugly: navigating postpartum depression, trying to find time for date night when you barely have time to shower, and sometimes watching your relationship completely change. Fink follows this up with her own super candid chat with her husband, Michael, about their parenthood experiences and why Michael decided to see a therapist before becoming a father.

The Essential Episode Guide

So, as The Real Stuff enters its Dear Media era, here are five can’t-miss episodes to get you immersed in Fink’s world:

  1. My ex-BFF published a book about me“: An exploration of friendship, betrayal, and the ownership of shared stories, told through the lens of an audience caller’s experience with unwanted public exposure.
  2. The wildest interaction I’ve ever had with a follower“: Fink’s solo recounting of an unprecedented fan encounter that changed her understanding of creator-audience relationships.
  3. How having kids changed 3 marriages“: A multifaceted look at how parenthood transforms relationships, featuring real accounts from three different couples.
  4. An honest conversation with my husband about how our lives changed after having kids“: Fink brings on her husband to talk about parenthood, personal identity, and therapy revelations.
  5. The Fink siblings episode“: Fink brings on her brother and twin sister to talk about familial bonds, comparison, and how we get through difficult times within our families.


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