Health & Wellness

Your Hobby Doesn’t Need to Be Productive, According to ‘Everybody’s Crazy’

January 16, 2026

If you’ve ever stared at the question “what do you do for fun?” like it’s a job interview, Savannah James and April McDaniel are here to free you. On Everybody’s Crazy, they get into hobbies with the kind of honesty that makes you side-eye your own free time.

The episode makes the case that your hobby doesn’t have to be impressive or monetizable. It can be tiny. It can be random. It can be self-care with a better PR team. Whether it’s flower arranging, organizing your closet, walking, makeup, even taking baths, pick something that feels like you, do it because it’s fun, and let it be that.

The hobby you already do counts

One of the most freeing parts of this episode is how quickly James and McDaniel dismantle the idea that a hobby has to look productive or impressive. If you’re already doing something in your free time because it calms you down or brings you a little joy, that’s the whole point. As they put it, a hobby is “just anything that you like to do in your free time.” Plain and simple.

That reframing matters because so many people think they need to add something new to be interesting. Meanwhile, the things you’re already reaching for—walking, doing your makeup, baking—are right there. The difference isn’t the activity. It’s the intention behind it. When it’s not about obligation, performance, or taking care of everyone else, it shifts into something restorative.

Closet resets, flower arranging, and other quiet-girl hobbies

Some of the most charming moments in the episode come from the hobbies that sound small but feel deeply grounding. McDaniel talks about flower making with real affection, from buying blooms to putting together her own arrangements. It’s creative, tactile, and slow in a way that doesn’t ask for an audience. She also shares her love of cleaning and organizing her closet, laying out outfits, and doing a “little fashion show” just for herself. No one’s filming it. No one’s buying it. That’s the point.

These quiet-girl hobbies live in the in-between moments of life. They don’t demand excellence or output, only presence. Resetting a closet or arranging flowers gives your brain something gentle to focus on, which is why it feels so calming. There’s order without pressure, creativity without critique.

Is TikTok a hobby?

This is where the conversation gets funny and uncomfortably real. A caller admits that scrolling TikTok might be one of her main hobbies, and instead of instant judgment, there’s recognition. It’s entertaining. It’s funny. It helps people unwind. James even co-signs it as familiar territory.

Then they do the math, and the tone shifts. One hour a day becomes “364 hours a year,” and suddenly the joke turns into a reality check. Not because scrolling is bad, but because time adds up faster than most people realize.

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The point isn’t to shame anyone for scrolling. It’s about awareness. If TikTok is where your free time goes, that is technically a hobby—but it might be crowding out others you’ve been saying you want to try. You don’t need a complete digital detox, but maybe just asks you to notice what you’re choosing by default. When you see the numbers, it becomes easier to decide whether that habit is serving you or quietly running the clock.

Make one 2026 hobby plan and keep it fun

Pick one hobby you want to try this year and actually do it. Not five hobbies. Not a personality overhaul. Just one. McDaniel talks about wanting to be more intentional with walking. James admits there are plenty of things she wants to do but hasn’t started yet, like pottery. Instead of letting those ideas live in the vague someday zone, they call it out directly and turn it into a plan.

The key detail is that the plan stays light. Pottery doesn’t need a home studio or a kiln. Flower arranging doesn’t need to turn into a business. They even joke about starting another venture and immediately shut it down. This is about enjoyment, not output. “This is just for fun, for relaxation, and for enjoyment,” and that line feels like the thesis.

By framing hobbies as something you schedule without pressure, they remove the biggest blocker: perfection. You’re allowed to be bad at it and you’re allowed to quit. You’re allowed to change your mind. The only rule is that it gives you something to look forward to. For 2026, that might be the healthiest habit of all.

To hear McDaniel and James’ full conversation, listen to Everybody’s Crazy wherever you get your podcasts.