If you thought MomTok was already teetering on the edge of a caffeine-fueled collapse thanks to The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, buckle up—because Whitney Leavitt just showed up with a Stanley Cup full of sparkling water and sugar-free puree. And her appearance on the Not Skinny But Not Fat podcast might just be the final nail in the coffin.
Host Amanda Hirsch sits down with Leavitt to discuss everything from postpartum chaos to ketamine therapy—and of course, all the behind-the-scenes drama from The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
Leavitt filmed The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 2 just three days after giving birth. “It was three days,” she confirms. “Bro, I don’t even know. Lots of caffeine. I’m a caffeine addict.” Between breastfeeding, pumping, and still wearing postpartum diapers, she powered through on vibes and Diet Dr. Pepper alone.
The emotional aftermath, however, included being publicly rejected by the MomTok girl gang. “That was like a half ass vote,” she admits. “It sucked. I don’t really know how to take that.”
For anyone still hoping for a reconciliation between Leavitt and Mikayla Matthews, don’t hold your breath. “Before we even filmed the show, me, Macy, Mikayla were so close,” she says. “She really doesn’t wanna be friends again. And that’s okay because I don’t either,” Leavitt shares about where she and Matthews stand now.
Leavitt believes she became Matthew’s “punching bag” amid personal turmoil. “I think it was just a lot of other things,” she adds. “What she did was completely unwarranted.”
If you’ve watched the second season of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, you already know about the cringeworthy group vote to let Leavitt back into the fold. According to her, it wasn’t even supposed to be real. “I said that as a joke, then everyone took it seriously. So I’m voting to ban the vote,” she snarks.
When Hirsch asked why newbie Miranda McWhorter wasn’t even part of the vote, Leavitt deadpanned, “Guess we’ll find out.”
As season two of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives unfolds, alliances shift faster than TikTok trends. But Leavitt? She’s Team Demi, all the way.
“She’s my girl. I love her,” she says of Demi Engemann. “People have to understand: If there’s a camera following you around and they’re only showing your worst moments, obviously you’re gonna be the bad guy.”
Leavitt also hints that Engemann isn’t the only one who had issues with Jessi Ngatikaura’s alleged behind-the-scenes power plays: “There were other women involved. It wasn’t just Demi.”
One of the more revealing moments in the podcast was Leavitt’s take on Taylor Frankie Paul’s place in the group dynamic. “There is a difference between the star of the show—which is Taylor, it’s obviously Taylor—and the leader. Taylor’s not the leader of MomTok,” she said, admitting that Paul may be the star of the show but not the one running things when the cameras are off.
So, who is the leader? According to Leavitt, “I feel like me and Jessi probably do it the most,” she opines, referring to all the “get-togethers” and other MomTok to-dos.
It wouldn’t be The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives without some mind-bending headlines. Yes, Leavitt did try ketamine therapy—and hated it. “Very dark. I’ll never do it again,” she says.
And when asked how the original “soft swinging” scandal impacts her, Leavitt made clear that it was all about the clicks. “I got a lot of views on my social, so that’s great,” she admits. “They were watching to see whether I was gonna come out as a swinger.”
Don’t expect Leavitt to disappear anytime soon. “I would love to do Traitors, House of Villains, and Dancing with the Stars—top three, absolutely,” she says, adding that she absolutely plays a part in manifesting the chaos. “Anything to get attention—I was there.”
Season 3 is already filming, and Leavitt promises it’s “so different…even more of breaking the wall.” If you thought The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives was chaotic before, just wait. Emotional baptisms, influencer betrayal, ketamine therapy, and passive-aggression are just the beginning.
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